Doubting Bro

Joined

• started 10 topics
• posted 2,130 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by Doubting Bro

• 
  47

  Excommunication/Disfellowshipping is pagan practice--by request!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  excommunication/disfellowshipping is pagan practice!--by request!

  request from researcher: hi atlantis or n. or whoever!

  one of my friends on the board said that she downloaded the 1947 awake pdf that "bereanbiblestudent and invetigator 74" posted, and in the first issue on page 26, it said that excommunication or disfellowshipping was a pagan practice.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Doubting Bro

  I have now officially seen it all. Wow, just wow.
• 
  46

  !!!Now I have really seen it all... Watchtower Jewelry!!!!

  by Princess Daisy Boo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sitting at home on a friday night - browsing through all the jw groups on facebook and this catches my eye.... we help support our full-time ministry with this website.

  please have a look at the "watchtower" -style pins and pendants.

  with a link to this website http://jeffreydesign.com/index.php?main_page=index&cpath=7 aside from the fact that it really ain't pretty, how pukeworthy is this??

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Doubting Bro

  Thank you for your kind comments. Of course this Jewelry is not intended to be thought of as anything but Jewelry. The Watchtower-style Jewelry is also something that will identify us as witnesses, for the most part only to other witnesses who would recognize it. I'm glad you liked it!

  Yet you can't wear a cross, etc. Whoa, this is not WTS approved. Whoever owns this could easily be facing a JC.
• 
  25

  Watchtower Blood Component/Fraction Deception

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the watchtower attempts to create a semblance of logic to its allowance of blood fractions by presenting the concept that blood consists of four primary "components".

  use of these components are unchristian.

  these components can be broken into "fractions", which are acceptable to use.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Doubting Bro

  Right. I remember when I still believed and "fractions" started being acceptable, I spent literally hours researching which of the acceptable fractions would really be ok. I was using the logic presented by the WTS that some of the plasma "fractions" (I think the proteins but don't remember for sure) were passed from mother to infant and since God allowed the sharing in that situation, it should be ok. Well, in that research I found out that a whole lot more than plasma proteins are passed and that WBCs are in breast milk. That was the first time I openly researched a WTS stand on anything outside of WTS literature.

  I was stunned when hemoglobin was allowed since that is the main component of RBCs.

  To me, this whole position is just a baby step to making the medical use of blood a "conscience" matter that will not receive discipline or be considered a DA'ing act (which it is today). They couldn't just drop the blood ban cold because of the lawsuits. I'm convienced this is a well thoughtout plan to attempt to mitigate lawsuits. The use of whole blood and even just the banned components has been reduced medically as the technology improves to allow doctors to use only what they need. So, although people are dying because of this stupid rule, there are not as many as there were in the past.

  I believe there will come a time in the not too distant future (either a sucessful lawsuit or the death of the major forces with Bethel that are behind the ban) when the medical use of blood will be viewed as an organ transplant. They've already laid the groundwork anyway, especially in that Blood Awake from last summer. Of course, they won't apologize or make restitution for all the deaths their wrong policy caused and lay any blame at the feet of the r&f. But, what else is new?
• 
  4

  Child Abuse Dumped on Local Churches--Nashvile Southern Baptist Convention

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.nashvillescene.com/stories/news/2008/06/19/save_yourselves/#.

  june 19, 2008 .

  the author .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Doubting Bro

  I see JWs are not the only ones with horrible child abuse policies. How long is the government going to allow people to hurt kids under the protection of the 1st Amendment? I'm all for freedom to worship how you see fit but the first amendment didn't entitle complete freedom of worship. Only that the government would not establish a state religion. There are always limits to freedom and in my opinon, the line is crossed when someone else gets hurt, especially kids.
• 
  49

  WTS Will Stop Charging Interest on Loans

  by doinmypart in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the org will stop charging interest on kh building fund loans effective sep 1, 2008. current loan payment amounts will remain the same so the loans can be paid off sooner.. congregations should continue to donate to the kh building fund, and publishers can donate directly to the fund by sending donations directly to the branch.

  congregations are encouraged to forward surplus congregation and operating funds to the branch until the time those funds are needed by the congregation (this was actually read to the congregation...talk about full disclosure).. this is for all branches and congregations, not just the u.s..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Doubting Bro

  This has got to be motivated by taxes. Now it makes sense why they want the congregations to send all available funds to be held on deposit. Its an attempt to make up the money they'll be losing on the interest charges.
• 
  26

  Responding to "It's the truth because it follows the Bible, ..."

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "it's the truth because it follows the bible, rejects the trinity and hellfire, engages in worldwide preaching.".

  i hear that from the jw's in my life.

  the last time, i challenged the aspect of a worldwide preaching work.. i said that the work is barely scratching the surface in 2/3rds of the world- muslim, hindu, buddist lands.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Doubting Bro

  A@G - Would you be interested in posting the entire letter (or if you have already, direct me to the post). I love the way you set out argument using the WTS's own words.

  OTWO- The reality is that "it's the truth because I want to believe it's the truth". Until someone is willing to look at the facts without bias, they'll never be convienced.
• 
  75

  new revised New World Translation

  by isaacaustin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what may i ask is this?

  ?.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Doubting Bro

  FYI - I have one of the 2006 paperback printing NWTs and it has removed all the brackets including the scripture in question. I leafed through it yesterday and I don't see anything notifying the reader of the change. Actually, I'm suprised they didn't do that a long time ago. So much for being "the most well respected translation".
• 
  38

  Any actually embarrased to admit they were Witnesses?

  by Robert7 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i was active, i was always (usually) proud to talk about being a jw, our faith, reasons for our stupid beliefs on birthdays, x-mas, etc.

  now with everything i'm going through, given how much of an impact this is to my life, i want to talk to others about it, like coworkers, and other friends.

  but thinking about how i would explain how it's a mind-controlling cult, i feel stupid for falling for it.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Doubting Bro

  I'm the exact way!!! I use to get so nervous when religion came up in discussion. I would try my best to change the subject out of fear someone would ask what church I went to.

  Me too! Even when I was very active I felt that way. I always knew something was very wrong but I guess I just choked it down.
• 
  19

  WHEW! What a ride!....Now zyprexa, cold turkey, and therapy....

  by oompa in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so going off all my meds proved one huge things to me....i thought i was just depressed....almost constantly...and not bi-polar....but after going off all meds.......life was good.....real good ....oh so incredibly flucking good....that it hit finally hit me....i really should not be feeling this good...so could i hardly needed any sleep or food!

  everything was 20,000 times better than it should be......even my grilled salmon, garlic mashed potatoes, and steamed broccoli with lime was soooo good i let every bite linger for at least a minute!?!?

  !....yeah weird.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Doubting Bro

  oompa,

  Glad your getting the help you need!
• 
  30

  Saturday, June 14, Dallas, TX

  by cruzanheart in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, it's not exactly on the date but the first opportunity thereafter!.

  it's been a hell of a ride.

  we were both regular pioneers when we met and we weathered the storms of getting married (both sets of parents did their best to keep it from happening), chris leaving the borg, me staying in for another 15 years and two kids, his family disowning him, my father's suicide .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Doubting Bro

  cruzanheart & big tex,

  Congratulations on 25!